June 2009 Meeting Minutes

Board Members in Attendance:  Bob Throm, Michael Kinsley, Tim McFlynn, Patsy Bacheldor,
Kathy DeWolfe, Jan Martin, Frieda Wallison, Rick Heede, Holly McClain, Emily Smith, Amy Doherty,
Steve Child.
Guests: G.R. Fielding, Seth Sackson, Michael Doherty                           


I.    G.R. Fielding, County Engineer
G.R. was invited to the meeting to discuss the County’s capital improvement and maintenance program
as it pertains to our area.

Snowmass Creek Road
There have been complaints that the last, unpaved section, is not maintained properly.
The Caucus’ recommendation in the past was to not use Mag Chloride, because of the perception that it could be harmful to livestock and plants. The Mag Chloride acts as a binder, and road grading and putting down new base/gravel does not last long without a binder. There are alternatives to Mag Chloride such as Ligno Sulfate…but it takes 24 hours to set up…and the roads would need to be closed off and coated in sections….a labor intensive (expensive) proposition.
Holly said she would be ok with it being used only once or twice a year, as a binder, NOT a de-icer, and would watch her horses carefully for any adverse affects. She also preferred it not be used near her irrigation ditch. Holly also suggested the County put a culvert on SM Creek Rd. by the Harvey’s Ranch, which would help keep the Mag Chloride intact. The Board enthusiastically supported Holly's recommendation and Mr. Fielding seemed reassuring that these improvements could be undertaken.

Watson Divide Rd.
Watson gets about 600-800 cars per day. With this traffic, it is on the County’s list for improvements, but the capital budget was recently reduced from $1.9M/year to $400K this year. Mag Chloride is already used on Watson. Before any major improvements, the road would need to be realigned. Other improvements could be installation of guard rails and paving. Some Caucus members expressed opposition to any improvements at all, feeling this should be left as a rural/gravel road.  Tim recommended we let the County know that we understand further improvement to Watson is on their Capital Plan, and we would like to participate in such discussions.

Upper Capitol Creek Rd.
G.R. said this road is supposed to be at a lower level of maintenance. Steve mentioned the road is now 5’ wider than what it used to be. Snowplows have knocked over trees and fences. Steve felt it would almost be better for the County to let residents plow it themselves. The same issue exists on East Sopris. G.R. said the Road & Bridge crew has had a lot of turnover and management is addressing this. He is trying to have them pull back in on E Sopris Creek. There were drainage issues on Capitol Creek. He has been trying to look at the roads in the summer with their new operators. They also spend time in the summer cleaning out the ditches. He has 9 operators; 3 started in Jan./Feb. Please be patient. Let G.R. know if you see any maintenance issues.

Snowmass Creek Rd., T Intersection to Conoco
Some residents have asked for improvements on this stretch of road to make it safer for bikers. G.R. said this is further down the priority list. There is no budget for widening this road. Ideally, we should also straighten out the severe curve by the bridge. Tim asked about installing speed dampening, traffic calming devices, which might make it safer, but cost less.
Motion: Michael moved to ask the County to study the installation of traffic calming devices on Snowmass Creek Rd. from the T to the Conoco. Bob seconded the motion. All approved but Kathy.
G.R. suggested the Caucus put in writing their latest positions on these issues, especially the go-ahead to try the Mag. Chloride, and that this would help him move forward. Holly will write the letter and send it to G.R.
G.R. also commented he is studying signage in the Caucus area. He did a survey and mapped all the inconsistent signage and speed limit signs. He may change a couple of speed limits.


II.    Approval of Minutes.
Motion: Frieda moved to approve the minutes from May 18. Bob seconded. All approved.


III.    SnowCap Website, Jan Martin
Jan reported the new website had over 1,284 hits since inception. Tim commented it is beautiful and functional. Holly and Jan went to the Little Elk Creek homeowner’s meeting, and welcomed them to participate in the Caucus. They will attend the Shield-O meeting next. Please let them know of other meetings in the area if you know of any.
Tim suggested we could do a bulk rate mailer to every address publicizing the website. Patsy and Holly will work on the Wheeler party.


IV    Treasurer’s Report, Amy Doherty
We received 2 contributions. Also a refund of $55 from lawyers. Our tax returns were filed on May 30 – thank you Peter Van Domlen! Amy will send him a thank you note.


V.    Land Use Applications, Steve Child

Silverman Site Plan Review.
5720 Snowmass Creek Rd., Hidden Meadows
Applicant proposes to demolish the existing house and construct a new house (up to 5750) on the same site. Steve recommended approval. Steve, Frieda, Kathy, Tim and Jan have all seen the site at one time or another and the proposal looks fine.
Motion: Bob moved to approve. Holly seconded the motion. All approved. Steve will write the letter.

Rogers Site Plan Review and Activity Envelope with Vesting,
Watson Divide Road (near Hedges) 6.135 acres.
Applicant proposes to add activity envelopes for future development of a pasture, pond and solar collector array (on the other side of their access road) and to extend their vested rights. An existing activity envelope for the house was previously approved. The County may be inclined to exempt the property from Ridgeline Review as it was not specified as a requirement of a past court ordered settlement.
Caucus members said they would like to have a site visit to examine the parcel. They asked Steve to arrange a visit with Francis Kirzmanich, request a ridgeline review, learn about the position of the solar collectors, and examine the source of water.
       
Watson Divide Ranch Application for Minor Amendments to Prior Permit,
Wheeler, top of Watson Divide, 830 acres.
Applicant proposes to enlarge the boundary of the Pond Development Envelope. This would accurately reflect what was actually constructed and landscaped (the pond envelope would be increased by 0.8 acre and the upper hay/pasture development envelope would be decreased by the same amount.) They also want to revise the Landscape Plan to reflect the landscaping that was installed last year.
Motion: Frieda moved that the Caucus approve the amendments. Bob seconded. It unanimously passed.
Steve will write the letter.


VI.    Board Election.
Emily will put together a postcard soliciting candidates, also promoting the website.
Tim indicated that Jan had suggested we discuss the pros and cons of staggered terms for Board members at the next meeting.


VII.    Committee on County Regulations, Jan Martin
Jan’s committee (Jan, Holly and John Clark) had their first meeting with the County. County representatives from Community Development, Cindy Houben, Joanna Schaffner and Suzanne Wolff were very cordial and receptive.

Fences. The fence issue arose because of a perceived position by the County requiring wildlife-friendly fences at the cost of domestic animal safety and security. The Committee found out the criteria for fences comes down to the County from the Div. Of Wildlife – Kevin Wright. The design is predicated on the ability of the elk to be able to migrate. The group also found out the regulations are applied only in areas designated as elk, deer or mountain sheep habitat. They reviewed maps that indicated that the valleys within the Caucus area have not been designated as elk habitat. The requirement also does not apply to any property assessed as agricultural. In those areas where the requirement is applicable, both the County and DOW have given wildlife a priority over domestic livestock. Although different standards for wildlife and livestock would make their job more difficult, the County indicated a willingness to work with anyone for whom the fence requirement might pose a problem. Kevin has a design that may work for both ranchers and elk. The County will get this from him.

Horse shelters. The area devoted to them is included in the allowable barn area, a requirement that can be changed only by the BOCC. The County is frustrated with those who obtain a permit for a three sided shelter and then choose to improve it with doors on the fourth side and turn it into a dwelling
Jan’s group suggested the problem might be minimized by requiring a dirt floor and imposing specific height limits. Her group will study the matter further and provide Community Development with a proposal.
Jan’s group will run any such proposals before the Caucus Board for their approval in advance of presenting them to the County. Overall, they felt the meeting was productive and successful.


VIII.    “Snowmass”
At the last meeting, Sue H. was concerned when the papers reported Related/WestPac was starting to call Snowmass Village, “Snowmass”. Tim consulted with one of his attorney friends who is an expert on intellectual property. A primarily geographic term is not protectable. The exception is if the term acquires secondary meaning over many years, so it means something other than geographic. We could use the term, “Old Snowmass”, but that’s not the proper use on maps, etc. Tim suggested a ski symbol be placed on the Snowmass Village sign on Highway 82. 


IX.    Bylaws.
Frieda and Michael have been working on revising the language in the Bylaws concerning Conflict of Interest. Everyone received copies of the new language.
Motion: Holly moved to approve the Bylaws changes. Steve seconded. All approved.

 

The meeting was adjourned. Next meeting: Monday, July 20.
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